{"id":40,"date":"2010-09-20T08:29:24","date_gmt":"2010-09-20T12:29:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/2010\/09\/20\/final-antigone-analysis-thought-idea\/"},"modified":"2010-09-20T08:29:24","modified_gmt":"2010-09-20T12:29:24","slug":"final-antigone-analysis-thought-idea","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/2010\/09\/20\/final-antigone-analysis-thought-idea\/","title":{"rendered":"Final Antigone Analysis &#8211; Thought (Idea)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mary McDonnellHannah RhodesChelsea Radigan<br \/>\nScript Analysis<br \/>\nSeptember 20, 2010\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><u>Aristotelian Analysis- Thought (Idea)- <em>Antigone<\/em><\/u><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">I.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Stated by the characters in plain words:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><u><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Gods&#39; Superiority to Humans:<\/font><\/u><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;For me it&#39;s noble to do this thing, then die\u20ac\u00a6 I will commit a holy crime, for I must please those down below for a longer time than those up here, since there I&#39;ll lie forever&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;At many things &#8211; wonders, terrors &ndash; we feel awe, but at nothing more than at man&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Nor did I think your proclamation so strong that you, a mortal, could overrule the laws of the gods, that are unwritten and unfailing.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Zeus, what transgression of men could overcome your power? Neither sleep that catches everyone in its nets nor the weariless passing of the months named for gods can overcome it\u20ac\u00a6&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;No man has the power to stain the gods&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;The burden of being mortal &ndash; the sad, exhausting burden&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;[Gods] are not of today and yesterday; they live forever.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><u><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Negative Effects of Pride\/Hubris:<\/font><\/u><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Zeus utterly hates the noise of an arrogant bragging tongue&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Whoever thinks that only he himself owns all good sense, that he and no one else has such a tongue and mind &ndash; when men like that are opened up, it&#39;s seen that they are empty&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;There is no city that belongs to only one man&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Good sense is the first principle of happiness. We must not act disrespectfully toward the gods. Grand words of arrogant men, paid back with great blows, in old age teach good sense&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;There is no reverence in trampling on God&#39;s honor.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><u><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Family vs. Country Loyalties:<\/font><\/u><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0 &quot;Any man who feels that someone close to him is more important than his own fatherland &#8211; him I count as belonging nowhere&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Knowing that this ship keeps us safe, and only when it sails upright can we choose friends for ourselves&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Honoring the laws of the earth and the justice of the gods, to which men swear, he stands high in his city. But outside any city is he who dares to consort with what is wrong&quot; (also Gods)<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;He who is a good man in his own house will also be seen to be just in public life&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;This is why men pray to bring up dutiful offspring and to keep them at home: so they&#39;ll pay back a hated foe with trouble, and giving honor, love the friends of their father as he does. Of him who breeds useless children, what else can you say but that he only begets more burdens for himself, and more mockery among his enemies?&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Whoever is put into power by the city must be obeyed in everything &ndash; in small things, and what&#39;s just, and the opposite. There is no greater evil that lack of rule&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;Anyone thinking another man more a friend than his country, I rate him nowhere&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;There is nothing worse than disobedience to authority.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><u><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Negative Effects of Greed\/Corruption:<\/font><\/u><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;For nothing current grows among us worse for men than silver: money ravages the cities, it forces men to leave their homes, it teaches mortals to turn to shameful deeds, it shows men how to commit all crimes, and know all kinds of irreverence&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;Dirty profits make for suffering&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;The mind of those who plan in the dark what is not right will often find itself caught as a thief&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;The gods&#39; swift-footed bringers-of-harm cut down the evil-minded&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;When a man&#39;s enjoyment betrays him, I don&#39;t think of him as living but as a dead man who can still draw breath&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;Often greed has with its hopes brought men to ruin.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;Do you see the gods as honoring criminals? This is not so.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0&quot;Ill-gotten gains ruin more than they save.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;When people plot mischief in the dark, it is the mind which first is convicted of deceit.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;The good man does not seek an <em>equal<\/em> share only, with the bad.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><u><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Human Weakness\/Limited Knowledge of Mortals &#8211; Stubbornness: <\/font><\/u><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Mortals should not swear anything&#39;s impossible! &ndash; since later thoughts can prove one&#39;s judgment quite mistaken&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;For does not someone who, like me, lives on among so many evils, profit by dying?&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Rigid walls are those most apt to fall, and that the hardest iron, forged in fire for greatest strength, you&#39;ll see is often broken, shattered&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Good sense that is innate in people deserts them in the midst of troubles&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;The trees that bend with the current save themselves and even their twigs, but those that stand straight are annihilated, root and branch&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;It&#39;s best by far if a man is completely filled with knowledge by his nature\u20ac\u00a6 It&#39;s also good to learn from what&#39;s well said&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;To show reverence is indeed some reverence. But power, in him who holds power, is absolutely not to be opposed&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Making bad choices is something shared by all men, but when a man goes wrong, he&#39;s not still ill-advised and not ill-situated if he tries to rectify the evil he has fallen into and stops insisting that he will not move. Stubbornness will earn the charge of botching things!&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;It&#39;s terrible to give way. But to resist &ndash; and strike my soul with ruin &ndash; is terrible&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0&quot;It&#39;s a bad thing if one judges, and judges wrongly.&quot; <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">&quot;No city has he with whom dwells dishonor prompted by recklessness.&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0<u>Women Subservient to Men:<\/u>\u00a0\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0&quot;We must keep in mind that first, we&#39;re born as women, we&#39;re not brought into being to war with men; and second, that we are ruled by those whose strength is greater, and we must yield to this&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;We must safeguard the orders of the rulers, and we must never be defeated by a woman &ndash; better to be overthrown, if we must be, by a man; then we will not be said to have been beaten by the women&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;For a woman who has died it is a great thing even to be spoken of as having the same fate as those who are like gods, both when alive and then afterward, when dead&quot;<br \/>\n<u>Predestination &ndash; ( also Cyclical Tragedy in Families):<\/u><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;It makes no sense to do things that are futile&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Among those whose house the gods shake, no ruin is absent as it creeps over a multitude of generations\u20ac\u00a6&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;The power of fate &ndash; whatever that is &ndash; fills us with terror and awe. Neither wealth nor weapons nor high walls nor dark sea-battered ships can escape it&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;Don&#39;t pray for anything &ndash; for from whatever good or ill is destined for mortals, there&#39;s no deliverance&quot;<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">II.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 From the action, not the interpretation:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">The main themes of Sophocles&#39; <em>Antigone<\/em> are the importance of honoring the dead, the dangers of greed and pride, the gods&#39; superiority in the face of human weakness, and the power of fate and predestination.\u00a0 Antigone&#39;s actions demonstrate the importance of honoring the dead because she buries her dead brother, according to the gods&#39; laws, despite Kreon&#39;s protest.\u00a0 Kreon is punished for his hubris and unwillingness to bend to the will of the gods when he punishes Antigone for defying his proclamation to leave Polyneikes unburied.\u00a0 The power of fate is stressed by the Chorus, who reflect on the ultimate sovereignty of the gods regardless of men&#39;s laws.\u00a0 These themes combine to form a play whose purpose is to promote the necessity of living in adherence to the gods&#39; laws rather than the laws of any man or country.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">III.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Comparison to themes of the author&#39;s other works:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Fate- Oedipus and his family cannot escape their fate, no matter how they try to avoid it.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Stubbornness and denial of the truth- Oedipus and Jocasta stubbornly resist the truth because it would be too painful to acknowledge.\u00a0 Likewise, Kreon is confronted with signs, such as Teirisias&#39; speech, that his method of handling the problem is unwise, but he stubbornly holds to his course. <\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Honor v. Corruption- Electra and Antigone would rather do what is morally right and suffer for it than act dishonorably for their benefit.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">IV.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Comparison of themes by other authors of the time period:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Gods are supreme- Both <em>Antigone<\/em> and <em>Medea<\/em> illustrate that mortals cannot defy laws or promises set down by the gods and avoid punishment<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Family- Even though Kreon initially considers family connections secondary to upholding his laws, he, like Jason in <em>Medea<\/em>, is devastated when his choice to put political expediency before his family precipitates the death of his new wife and children<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Subservience of Women- In both <em>Medea<\/em> and <em>Antigone<\/em>, women are said to be inferior to men in a variety of ways.\u00a0 Medea and Antigone make themselves exceptions to this rule.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Dying honorably- Antigone considers it her top priority to honor her dead brother, regardless of the consequences.\u00a0 She would rather do the right thing and die for it than sacrifice her beliefs.\u00a0 Similarly, <em>Alcestis<\/em>&#39; Admetus demonstrates the importance of giving the dead the respect they deserve.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Heriditary curse- Antigone&#39;s ancestry is plagued with unhappiness and violence. In the play <em>Agamemnon<\/em>, though the violence is more intentional, it is still embedded in the family&#39;s nature.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Greed for power- Jason from <em>Medea<\/em> abandons his family in order to gain power and political standing.\u00a0 Kreon is also preoccupied with his own power.\u00a0 The chorus, in <em>Antigone<\/em>, specifically warns against the dangers of greed.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\">V.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Comparison of themes of plays with similar actions:<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><em>King Lear<\/em>&#8211; Similar to the way in which Kreon punishes Antigone for disobeying his orders, Lear exiles his daughter, Cordelia, for not telling him what he wants to hear.\u00a0 Also, Kreon and Lear handle their power poorly, with one clinging to his authority relentlessly and the other giving it away to his incompetent daughters, resulting in chaos and death. Both kings are foolishly stubborn.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><em>Hamlet<\/em>&#8211; Like Antigone, Hamlet is determined to honor a lost relative, his father, and sacrifices his life in the process.\u00a0 Claudius&#39; decision to murder his brother in order to gain power parallels Kreon&#39;s obsession with his own power.\u00a0 Both of the power-hungry characters are the uncles of the title character and responsible for their deaths.\u00a0 Also, in both plays, the loyalty to family conflicts with the loyalty to country.\u00a0 The themes which connect these plays are honor for the dead, lust for power, and family versus country loyalties.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mary McDonnellHannah RhodesChelsea Radigan Script Analysis September 20, 2010\u00a0 \u00a0 Aristotelian Analysis- Thought (Idea)- Antigone I.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Stated by the characters in plain words: Gods&#39; Superiority to Humans: \u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &quot;For me it&#39;s noble to do this thing, then die\u20ac\u00a6 I will commit a holy crime, for I must please those down below for a longer time &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/2010\/09\/20\/final-antigone-analysis-thought-idea\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Final Antigone Analysis &#8211; Thought (Idea)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1312,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1249],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-arisotle-thought-idea"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1312"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.richmond.edu\/script_analysis_2010\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}